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I've been reading Alfred Habegger's My Wars Are Laid Away in Books: The Life of Emily Dickinson, and you guys, it's kind of a hoot. You don't really expect an academic biography to be snarky, and it's not like Habegger is snarking all over the place, but - and I think he's taking some inspiration from Dickinson herself here, because she could certainly be snarky in her nineteenth-century way - he certainly has his moments.

In particular, you can practically hear him rolling his eyes when he argues with one of Dickinson's previous biographers, whose interpretation of Dickinson's life seems to have been "poor little match girl." Unfortunately for this biographer, Emily Dickinson had probably the least traumatic childhood of anyone in the entirety of 19th century America. None of her siblings died, neither of her parents died, she didn't start working a factory or the farm fields at a tender age (she doesn't even seem to have done much housework), nobody she loved was sold into slavery, she wasn't sold into slavery, the Civil War isn't even going to happen for another decade or two.

So far the most upsetting thing that has happened to her - she's about seventeen now - is that a couple of neighbors died, prompting some extended grim musings on death and immortality and eternity and isn't the idea of eternity almost as frightening as the idea of just dying and parting from everything forever?

The book is a library book so I did not actually write "Twinsies!" in the margin when Emily started on this vein, but this is pretty much exactly what I did when my grandfather died when I was eight, so I was totally thinking it.

Other terrible habits I share with Emily Dickinson: attempting to keep in touch with people long after it would have become clear to literally anyone else in the universe that they have no interest in keeping in touch, and are in fact probably groaning at the sight of each new letter/text message. My God! Won't she just give up already?

I also read probably a few too many of those "move heaven and earth to keep in contact with your depressed friends or you are a HORRIBLE PERSON" articles (they rarely spell it out so bluntly, but that was the general subtext), which convinced me that if anyone drifted out of contact it was a clear sign that they were also drifting aimless and alone upon the bitter seas of despondency. Obviously utter despair is the only reason why anyone would ever reject the precious jewel of my friendship.

BUT IN FACT it turns out that the reason why people write these articles it that nine times out of ten when people drift out of contact, it is in fact because they don't want to be in contact. Most people realize this, and that is why they (erroneously but understandably) believe their depressed friends don't want to be contacted either. This is why these articles don't come with "But actually there are lots of reasons why your friends might gradually stop responding to you, so don't assume on that basis alone that they're depressed" disclaimers.

1. You were good friends once but they've drifted away. They went somewhere else and have new friends now. It happens.

2. As far as they're concerned, you were only friends because circumstance threw you together and frankly they're a little weirded out that you tried to keep in touch after those circumstances ended.

3. They are a terrible correspondent. They are bad at text messages, letters, Facebook, email, telephone calls, snapchats, and God knows what else. If smoke signals and passenger pigeons were still in vogue, they would be bad at that too. You could be their very best friend in all the world and they wouldn't keep in touch.

4. They're busy. Usually this is a polite social fiction, and the people who swear up and down they're too busy to keep in touch are actually spending at least eight hours a week binge-watching Doctor Who on Netflix, but occasionally you have a friend who is, say, doing a medical residency. Those people? They're actually too busy.

5. Or maybe they are totally depressed - and they still don't want to hear from you. They never liked you that much in the first place and in their current state you're totally intolerable. Ugh, her again? Why can't any of my good friends ever contact me? Cue extended musing about how clearly all the friends they actually liked probably never liked them at all, which is yet more proof that they are unworthy, unworthy! of those fine people, and that is why only their second-rate friends still text.

6. In general, unless someone actually says "I am depressed/terminally ill with cancer/incredibly busy with my new baby/otherwise have a really good excuse for being a shitty correspondent, but nonetheless I really appreciate you keeping in contact with me," there is every likelihood that in fact they do not appreciate it. Your letters are collecting dust on their windowsill.

I realize that this sounds melodramatic, but I've had two friends eventually admit that they had stopped reading my letters. They clearly hoped that I would eventually stop writing of my own accord, but no, I persisted in putting them in this embarrassing position by sending them more letters.

Basically, when people stop responding, 90% of the time that is their way of politely signalling their disinterest. No one wants to have to say, "Actually I have no interest in keeping in touch," so people just try to quietly fade out. Let them.

It has taken me the better part of ten years to figure this out. On the bright side, Emily Dickinson doesn't seem to have worked it out ever, so I guess it could be worse.

ETA: Every time I post about this, I get long, defensive comments from people who know they're terrible at keeping in touch and feel guilty about it, but nonetheless have no intention of even trying to do better. This is 100% the wrong place to look for sympathy or validation for that position. If you're even thinking about leaving a comment like that, go text one of your neglected friends instead.

Date: 2016-04-11 01:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rheasilvia.livejournal.com
As a guilt-ridden (and slightly depressed) person of type #3 who tends not to realize that other people expect frequent contact to be the only way of maintaining feelings of closeness and friendship (while I can and do feel extremely close to and affectionate towards people I haven't talked to in months), let me just say:

I deeply appreciate anyone who understands and accepts that being bad at keeping in touch is very much not the same as a lack of interest in continued friendship. I spend a lot of time feeling horribly guilty at being so bad about keeping in touch, and being afraid that my friends will think I've lost interest.

Of course, I also tend to assume that the burden of keeping in contact is all on me, and when there hasn't been much contact, I always think it's my fault, and down to my lack of reaching out... even when sometimes the other person isn't reaching out either, or doing so even less than I am. So I suppose there is some commonality there, after all!

Date: 2016-04-11 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I hope you didn't leave this comment hoping for sympathy or validation from me, because by God have you come to the wrong place. The time you spent typing this self-justification would have been much better spent sending a text message to your neglected friends.

Date: 2016-04-11 07:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rheasilvia.livejournal.com
Actually, I was trying to say "good on you for doing what you do, since some people (like me) appreciate that kind of thing". It sounded like you might like to hear it.

My mistake.

Date: 2016-04-11 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nipernaadiagain.livejournal.com
Thank you for a fascinating post about why attempts of "keeping in touch" are wrong and usually not appreciated by people whom one mistakenly still considers friends long after the use by date.

The postscript and your answer to the first comment you got confuses me a bit, though.

I see someone who is similar to the person you describe in your post yourself to be - mistakenly feeling close longer than is true in reality. Yet - when in your entry you told that attempts of keeping in touch are the wrong way to go, you tell the comment writer THEY should keep doing the wrong thing and bothering people who are "friends" only inside her mind and not in reality.

Date: 2016-04-11 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
It's not that keeping in touch is in itself wrong; it's that keeping in touch has to be a two-sided process. If one person isn't interested, then the effort will fail no matter how assiduously the other party tries to keep in touch. So it's pointless to keep reaching out if someone consistently fails to respond.

The first comment is not about someone who tries to keep in touch long after the other party has lost interest. It's about being bad at keeping in touch at all, even if the other party is clearly very interested in hearing from her. It's basically the opposite of what the post is about, so I don't see why you're confused.

Date: 2016-04-11 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nipernaadiagain.livejournal.com
You say:

"The first comment is not about someone who tries to keep in touch long after the other party has lost interest. It's about being bad at keeping in touch at all, even if the other party is clearly very interested in hearing from her. It's basically the opposite of what the post is about, so I don't see why you're confused."

But the comment ends with:

"Of course, I also tend to assume that the burden of keeping in contact is all on me, and when there hasn't been much contact, I always think it's my fault, and down to my lack of reaching out... even when sometimes the other person isn't reaching out either, or doing so even less than I am."

Is not the sentence above telling that while the person commenting beats herself up for supposedly neglecting interaction, in reality the other side also makes no effort, hence the friendship only exist in imagination of the person feeling guilty for being lousy in keeping in touch?

So I was confused why you would send the depressed person wasting her spoons uselessly, attempting to "keep in touch" with people who are not interested in hearing about her at all (no matter how close she might mistakenly feel to them).

Date: 2016-04-12 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I can't imagine anyone not adoring getting letters from you.

It's been my impression that some people can be very good in-person friends but can't make the transition to long-distance friends. And some people can do long-distance friendship for a while, but eventually flag.

Date: 2016-04-12 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
Baffling though it is, these people exist.

And yeah. I have learned that it's just not worthwhile to try to keep in touch with people who say they're bad at keeping with touch, because 90% of the time they're right. Like, maybe send them a birthday card once a year to let them know you haven't forgotten them, but anything more than that is an exercise in frustration.

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