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After my generally negative response to John Ibson’s The Mourning After: Loss and Longing among Midcentury American Men, I am baffled to report that his earlier book Picturing Men: A Century of Male Relationships in Everyday American Photography... is actually good?

Picturing Men is a collection of photographs (both studio portraits and snapshots) of men together between 1850 and 1950, either in pairs or larger groupings. The photographs show that up through the 1910s, many men felt perfectly comfortable displaying physical affection in front of the camera: slinging their arms around each other, lying on top of each other, sitting on each other’s laps, kissing each other’s cheeks.

Ibson notes that many of these photos are now sold as “gay interest,” and in a way that’s accurate - they certainly are of “gay interest” today! - but, he points out, when these photos were taken there was nothing queer about this behavior in any sense of the word. Going to a professional photographer’s studio to get a professional photograph taken where you sit in your friend’s lap was 100% normal, masculine behavior, a common, fun activity that lots of men took part in. They often got the photos printed as postcards and sent them to other friends to show off what a good time they were having.

(And of course this means that guys who WERE boyfriends could get snuggly professional photographs taken too. Ibson has one photograph from 1920 of two guys leaning together so their heads touch, prominently sporting pansies in their buttonholes, and I think the slang term pansy was already common at that point, so it’s hard not to feel that this is a wink-wink nudge-nudge… although, again, we just can’t know.)

But over the 1910s and 1920s, these photographs transformed. Men got fewer and fewer studio portraits taken together. (It’s worth noting that snapshots had been around and inexpensive for at least twenty years at this point; this change is not merely the result of changing technology.) They also began to put more space between themselves in snapshots.

There’s a particularly fascinating chapter about the metamorphosis in team sports photographs. Before the 1910s, these photos tended to have an aesthetic that you might call “puppy pile”: sometimes the team members are literally lying on top of each other, or all crowded together with their arms around each other. Over the 1910s and 20s, the pictures literally “straighten up,” till the team members are standing in rows keeping their hands to themselves, as teams generally do in official photographs today.

During World War II, there was a brief resurgence of affectionate studio portraits of men - army buddies hugging each other etc. But more or less immediately after the war, the lid clamped down hard and did not lift again. I know I mentioned this in my review of The Mourning After, but again, I just can’t get over the cruelty of the cultural switcheroo from “Invest super hard in your relationship with your buddies! Here is an official government issued Buddy Book with a special page for My Favorite Buddy!” to “Why would any normal heterosexual man ever have strong feelings about another man or want to touch another man EVER, ew.”

During the Korean War, a mere five years later, there were scarcely any studio portraits of buddies. Even the snapshots often show the same stiffness that had become common in pictures of civilian men. And there were also simply fewer pictures of men together. This entire business of taking pictures with other men had begun to seem just a little gay.

By the Vietnam War, the idea of men displaying physical affection was so alien to American soldiers that they were appalled to see South Vietnamese soldiers going for walks with their buddies hand-in-hand. The Americans thought that the South Vietnamese army was riddled with homosexuals, and it contributed significantly to their belief that ARVN wasn’t much of a fighting force.

Date: 2022-05-19 12:56 pm (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
I found this interesting, thank you for sharing! ^_^

Date: 2022-05-19 01:46 pm (UTC)
oracne: turtle (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracne
This sounds like it would be up my alley! Thanks!

Date: 2022-05-19 07:14 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
The photographs show that up through the 1910s, many men felt perfectly comfortable displaying physical affection in front of the camera: slinging their arms around each other, lying on top of each other, sitting on each other’s laps, kissing each other’s cheeks.

More casual physical male affection in my Edwardian-set media, you cowards!

Ibson has one photograph from 1920 of two guys leaning together so their heads touch, prominently sporting pansies in their buttonholes, and I think the slang term pansy was already common at that point, so it’s hard not to feel that this is a wink-wink nudge-nudge… although, again, we just can’t know.

By 1920, the term was definitely in use. It's actually much older than I thought.

I just can’t get over the cruelty of the cultural switcheroo from “Invest super hard in your relationship with your buddies! Here is an official government issued Buddy Book with a special page for My Favorite Buddy!” to “Why would any normal heterosexual man ever have strong feelings about another man or want to touch another man EVER, ew.”

I still think if you can figure out how to write fiction about this phenomenon, you might as well; I don't think it's widely known and it feels like an important—and devastating—step in this culture's calcification of "no homo!"

Date: 2022-05-19 08:05 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
From: [personal profile] sovay
The Edwardian era was the last golden age of same-sex snuggling for both men and women!

I think it should be reinstituted. I say this as a person who doesn't even snuggle very much.

(which would have to be called The Buddy Book, wouldn't it?)

(It would.)

The switch from semi-acceptance to powerful cultural repugnance would be really, really hard.

I'm just fascinated by the idea of people keeping a genuinely platonic friendship alive in the face of active societal discouragement, because that is not at all how most of our narratives of emotional bonding and resistance go.
Edited Date: 2022-05-19 08:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2022-05-20 09:26 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
If I could track down an actual Buddy Book or simulacra, it might be interesting to do a short story in the form of the My Favorite Buddy page... start out just answering the questions and by the end the answers have unfolded to tell a story.

I like that structure. [personal profile] spatch was just reading about Buddy Books elsenet, so I'll ask if anyone posted scans or something.

Date: 2022-05-21 06:20 pm (UTC)
skygiants: Princess Tutu, facing darkness with a green light in the distance (Default)
From: [personal profile] skygiants
This would be REALLY GOOD I think!

Date: 2022-05-19 10:32 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
This is a neat post! ....also, wow, the rise of machismo post-war, damn.

Date: 2022-05-20 02:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] luzula
I was sitting a room with my parents when I read this, and told them about it. My dad initially refused to believe it, and started concocting theories that maybe more gay men went to photographers! I'm in Sweden, not the US, and I'm not sure what 19th century gender roles looked like here compared to the US, but he is definitely of an era where male friends did not show physical affection...

Date: 2022-05-21 04:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
This is SO fascinating but also so sad.

Date: 2022-05-23 04:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
This is so interesting!

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