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Happy New Year! (Hopefully it will be a happier year all round than 2017!) The sun is glimmering on the snow outside my window, absolutely beautiful - as long as you don't go out in it; it's -5 degrees right now, which is more than cold enough to kill all aesthetic appreciation.

Nonetheless I am planning to sally forth soon to see Lady Bird, and thus kickstart my New Year's Resolution: watch a movie by a female director every month. Please join me in this quest! I am hoping to recruit others to the cause, possibly even to the point of watching the same movie(s) for at least a few months, because it will give us someone to discuss the movies with and possibly even create a few tiny fandoms + ficlets.

A few movies on my list of possibles!

Jenny's Wedding, directed by Mary Agnes Donoghue, which is supposed to be a good movie about lesbians and also is on Netflix instant, which might make it easier for people to watch.

Girlhood, directed by Celine Sciamma. Also on Netflix Instant! A French movie about a teenage black girl in Paris and her friends and... that's all that I know about it. It looks like it might be fun and/or possibly harrowing?

The Breadwinner, directed by Nora Twomey, which was released in November 2017 but may not have even come to theaters in the US yet? BUT it is by the same production company that gave us Song of the Sea so I'm pretty excited for it and keep checking the listings hopefully.

Novitiate, directed by Maggie Betts, which I wanted to see in theaters SO BADLY and then it was there for like THREE DAYS so I ended up missing it, STILL SO MAD. This one is about nuns and I realize that not everyone wants to watch movies about nuns as much as I do, so I may not try to rope everyone else into this one. Also not sure that Netflix will be getting the DVD in any case.

A Wrinkle in Time, directed by Ava DuVernay. I thought that the father character was waaaay too prominent in the early trailers, but the more recent ones have cut back on him and brought Meg to center stage, AS SHE SHOULD BE, which has made me more optimistic. Also, Mindy Kaling is in this one! Coming out in March, in wide release.

Dance, Girl, Dance, directed by Dorothy Arzner, all the way back in 1940, and I cannot be the only person who is curious to see work by a 1940s woman film director. IIRC she was, for a while, the only female Hollywood film director, until Ida Lupino started directing in the late 40s; I'd like to see some of her work too. I watched her The Trouble with Angels a while ago (another film with NUNS), and it was a lot of fun.

Austenland, directed by Jerusha Hess. I really liked the Sharon Hale book that this movie is based on, but I've waffled about watching the movie because I've heard mixed reviews... but this is clearly the year to watch it! I hope it proves delightful.

My Brilliant Career, directed by Gillian Armstrong. A movie about a nineteenth century woman painter! I love women painters just as much as NUNS.

Also possibly some films by Sofia Coppola? I loved The Beguiled and I've seen Marie Antoinette (I'm still not sure how I feel about Marie Antoinette but it was definitely an experience) and I want to see some more.

Thoughts, ideas, news of other female-directed movies that are coming out this year? Desire to jump on this bandwagon? Please jump on the bandwagon. Think of all the movies we can talk about together!

Date: 2018-01-01 07:38 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Sovay: David Owen)
From: [personal profile] sovay
IIRC she was, for a while, the only female Hollywood film director, until Ida Lupino started directing in the late 40s

She was the only female film director working in what I'm now learning is called Classical Hollywood. (I can't help it, I expect more sword-and-sandal from a name like that.) There were other, earlier female directors in the silent era, like Lois Weber, but Arzner was the only one to survive the one-two coming of sound and the Production Code.

I watched her The Trouble with Angels a while ago (another film with NUNS), and it was a lot of fun.

I haven't seen that! Did you ever write it up?

(I have not yet seen anything Lupino directed, which is stupid, because she did at least one very famous noir.)

Date: 2018-01-02 03:54 am (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Maybe pair it with another Lupino movie? Netflix has The Hitch-HIker on DVD, so I'd vote for that one.

I will see if I can get hold of The Hitch-Hiker! That sounds like fun, although obviously dependent on my access to the movies in question. (I get most of my DVDs from the local library system.)

Date: 2018-01-02 04:38 pm (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Keep me posted! Once you know what you can get a hold of, we'll have to pick a month.

Will do!

I'm trying to think if there's a month that particularly says noir to me, but there isn't really.

A bunch of the internet celebrates Noirvember, but I do not; I just kind of watch the stuff year-round.

February I will probably reserve for female-directed rom-coms, though, because that seems seasonally appropriate for Valentine's Day.

That makes sense.

Speaking of female directors, are you already watching Kathryn Bigelow? I can recommend Strange Days (1995), which I never seem to have written about, and Near Dark (1987), which I did. Most of her films are not speculative, of course, so those the ones I've seen.

Date: 2018-01-03 03:03 am (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Are there other female-directed noir films? The other films in your post looked like they were scripted or produced by women, but not directed.

Lupino's would be the only ones in Hollywood. There were some female-directed noirs in the UK, although I don't believe I've seen any of them, and I know sufficiently little about other countries' noir traditions that I'm not going to rule them out just because I can't think of any examples. [edit] CASE IN POINT: FEMALE-DIRECTED NORWEGIAN NOIR. I had no idea Death Is a Caress (1949) even existed and now I really want to see it.

Everyone says her work is great but it would have to be something I really, really want to see to make watching half the movie through my fingers worth it.

That's fair. Don't start with Strange Days, then. I don't remember it as gory per se, but literally nauseating violence is a plot point.
Edited (only be sure always to call it please "research") Date: 2018-01-03 03:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-31 05:30 pm (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I may hold on to Lupino for Noirvember after all, because it doesn't seem likely that I'm going to find a lot of other noir movies with female directors that have a convenient DVD release that either Netflix or my library possesses.

So I was not able to secure a Lupino-directed noir through my library for ridiculous reasons, but I did manage to secure a Lupino-written (and -acted) noir, and it was totally worth it.

Date: 2018-01-01 08:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] landofnowhere
I saw Lady Bird recently and will be curious as to what you make of it?

I've only seen the beginning of Austenland and it was kind of fun, but I hadn't read the book.

Date: 2018-01-01 09:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] asakiyume
This seems like a really worthwhile goal! I look forward to your write-ups. I wanted to see Lady Bird but I suspect I've missed my chance.

I'm very frustrated with the trailers to Wrinkle in Time, even the new ones. They seem to feature all sorts of fantastical magical dangers that weren't present in the book--I think we talked about this earlier, but I'm not over it: I resent the Peter Jacksonification of things like the Narnia books and now (so I fear) A Wrinkle in Time. The trailers reminded me of live action version of Disney's Alice in Wonderland--sooooo oooout there. I'll be interested to hear if the do the brief visit to the two-dimensional world.

I like the casting, though! Love the looks of Meg, love the witches.

Date: 2018-01-02 03:50 am (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
They seem to feature all sorts of fantastical magical dangers that weren't present in the book--I think we talked about this earlier, but I'm not over it: I resent the Peter Jacksonification of things like the Narnia books and now (so I fear) A Wrinkle in Time.

I am hoping that it is a case of bad trailers for a good movie: I'm taking some cautious hope from the fact that although the trailers seem cut to be as conventional as possible, the look of the film isn't at all. And their Meg has a great face.

Date: 2018-01-02 03:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] asakiyume
Meg certainly does have a great face, and I think she'll be good no matter what the story's like. It's just that I don't see how all the magical extras can *not* represent a distracting departure from the original story. Maybe it'll be a good movie anyway (though the gee-whiz aspect of the magical elements rubs me the wrong way), but it seems to me it'll be telling a different story. Again, nothing wrong with that--except that coming out under the title "A Wrinkle in Time" means there probably won't be a chance for a more emotionally and tonally accurate movie to be made of the book. ... But this is all supposition based on the previews; the movie may surprise me!

Date: 2018-01-02 03:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
I did NOT like Austenland, lol. But maybe you will!

Date: 2018-01-02 10:29 am (UTC)
littlerhymes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
This is a great project! I am... terrible at watching things so I won't join (I do really want to see Lady Bird but it's not out here yet) but instead will follow with great interest and also make this suggestion: *shouting at top of lungs* CLEO FROM 5 TO 7 BY AGNES VARDA! ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME!

I really like Sofia Coppola's Virgin Suicides. I feel meh about Lost in Translation but it's such a cultural talking point that it's prob worth seeing.

Idk about movies coming out this year but would like to also mention that Agnieska Holland's The Secret Garden is a forever delight. Jane Campion's Portrait of a Lady and Bright Star are beautiful and so is Mira Nair's Monsoon Wedding.

I am also sometimes into the work of Julie Taymor (Titus and Across the Universe), Kathryn Bigelow, and Mary Harron (American Psycho is really good). And I really wanna see Sally Potter's Orlando... OK enough.

Date: 2018-01-02 04:41 pm (UTC)
sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Jane Campion's Portrait of a Lady and Bright Star are beautiful and so is Mira Nair's Monsoon Wedding.

I have not seen Portrait of a Lady, but I enthusiastically second Bright Star and Monsoon Wedding. I also enjoyed Campion's The Piano.

I am also sometimes into the work of Julie Taymor (Titus and Across the Universe), Kathryn Bigelow, and Mary Harron (American Psycho is really good). And I really wanna see Sally Potter's Orlando... OK enough.

Orlando is wonderful and I adore Titus. As just mentioned upthread, I have only managed to see Bigelow's genre films—the near-future one and the one with the vampires—and therefore, although I like them, have no idea if they are actually representative of her work.
Edited Date: 2018-01-02 04:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-03 10:58 am (UTC)
littlerhymes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
I feel like we have very similar taste in movies. :) I must see Orlando!

I think Bigelow's style has changed a bit since Strange Days and especially since Near Dark, which I think really feels like a product of its time. Hurt Locker (which is greaaat) was a lot tighter and sharper to me? I'd say this is probably as much a function of time as genre, since Point Break also feels very of its age. As a whole I find her career so interesting that she's worked in genres and styles that are almost always limited to male directors.

Date: 2018-01-03 10:23 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Sovay: David Owen)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I must see Orlando!

I hope there are copies readily accessible to you!

Have you seen any other of Sally Potter's films? I have not.

Hurt Locker (which is greaaat) was a lot tighter and sharper to me? I'd say this is probably as much a function of time as genre, since Point Break also feels very of its age.

That makes sense. Strange Days is politically very much of its moment and Near Dark blows its finale up just like an '80's blockbuster. I heard great things about The Hurt Locker.

As a whole I find her career so interesting that she's worked in genres and styles that are almost always limited to male directors.

Agreed. And it's the kind of thing I suspect wouldn't be so unusual if there were more female directors (I can't imagine there aren't other women interested in similar kinds of storytelling, but they don't seem to be getting work if they are), but there aren't, so for now she's an outlier.
Edited (clarity) Date: 2018-01-03 10:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-04 12:46 pm (UTC)
littlerhymes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
Have you seen any other of Sally Potter's films? I have not.

I've only seen The Man Who Cried which looks very gorgeous and has very beautiful people being beautiful at one another, but doesn't hold up narratively imo.

it's the kind of thing I suspect wouldn't be so unusual if there were more female directors (I can't imagine there aren't other women interested in similar kinds of storytelling, but they don't seem to be getting work if they are)

Yes, I agree so hard! It must be a matter of opportunity or lack thereof. It's really good to see directors like Michelle MacLaren and Patty Jenkins getting a chance at big screen superhero/action fare, finally. I hope that's the start of a bigger trend.

Date: 2018-01-03 11:00 am (UTC)
littlerhymes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
Lost in Translation is so melancholy to me - actually tho it might make a nice palate cleanser in between or after Austenland and Sleepless in Seattle!

I got a real pagan vibe off some of the scenes in Holland's Secret Garden - there's this one scene towards the end in particular where they're all chanting around the fire and calling Colin's father home. It was such an interesting way to nod towards the book but in a really different direction.

Date: 2018-01-04 12:55 pm (UTC)
littlerhymes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
You are such an enabler. :p

UR WELCOME lol

Date: 2018-01-03 08:07 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Haruspex: Autumn War)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I got a real pagan vibe off some of the scenes in Holland's Secret Garden - there's this one scene towards the end in particular where they're all chanting around the fire and calling Colin's father home.

That seems to have made me want to see the movie, when nothing else (including the presence of Maggie Smith and John Lynch) ever has. Thank you.

[edit] The book was very important to me as a child. I have seen but retain no particular emotional affinity for the 1949 Hollywood film with Dean Stockwell and Margaret O'Brien and keep meaning to rewatch the 1987 Hallmark TV version because it's the one with the post-WWI frame story and Derek Jacobi. I bounced very badly off the musical.
Edited Date: 2018-01-03 08:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-04 12:55 pm (UTC)
littlerhymes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlerhymes
Hee! It is a very beautifully made & filmed movie, and both Maggie & John Lynch are very wonderful in it, so if nothing else you'll probably enjoy those bits. :)

I loved the book so much too, it's such a touchstone. I haven't seen any of the adaptations you mention, though now I am intrigued by the mention of post-war frame story. Which reminds me that I've read at least one sequel to it that dealt with the war - I think it was Return to the Secret Garden by Susan Moody and I have... mixed feelings about it. But it's a very inspiring book, clearly!

Date: 2018-01-03 02:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ladyherenya
The Austenland film is silly but, I thought, entertainingly so.

I might go and see A Wrinkle in Time - from the trailers, it doesn't really look like what I imagined when I read the book, but it does look like something my siblings would be willing to watch with me.

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