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C. S. Lewis’s That Hideous Strength was evidently Lewis’s attempt at writing a spiritual thriller in the vein of Charles Williams, and upon the basis of this attempt it appears that this genre is not his forte.

At first, the book is dominated by the story of Mark, a man so desperate to be in the Inner Circle that he nearly sells his soul to Satan for a conspiratorial smile. Mark is recruited by NICE, although at no point is it clear what he’s been recruited to do or who he’s going to work with or how much he’s going to be paid or even how he’s going to be paid, and all his attempts to achieve any kind of a clarity are met with stonewalling and anger. He’s going to do what he has to do! A good NICE employee simply goes with the flow!

(Mark’s de facto guide to NICE is the leader of the NICE police, Miss Hardcastle, a cheroot-smoking lesbian stereotype who did some time with the British fascists before she joined the quasi-fascist NICE. I’m sure I ought to deplore this depiction, but like Mark, I clung to her like a life raft as we paddled through the incredibly stressful waters of NICE’s toxic work environment. Miss Hardcastle may be evil but she’s having a great time.)

NICE’s goal is to improve Britain through Science, whether the British want to be improved or not. Mark appears to have no intellectual or moral allegiance to this goal, or indeed to anything else, and listens without any evident reaction as he learns that NICE’s goals include cutting back the exorbitant amounts of plant and animal life that exist in the world, preventing the unfit from breeding, putting Britain under martial law, and also digging up Merlin from the underground cavern where he sleeps in order to harness his powers.

Yes, this book is also an Arthurian tale! Which brings us to Mark’s wife, Jane, who all her life has made it her goal “to avoid entanglements and interferences,” but finds herself getting entangled in the resistance to NICE, because she has begun to have prophetic dreams.

The leader of the resistance is Ransom, who in the previous books was based on Tolkien but now is based on Lewis’s new BFF Charles Williams. Jane kind of falls in love with him, in a “I would follow you to the ends of the earth” kind of way, and there’s an extended musing on how she always thought it was embarrassing to hear a girl say that about a man, but now she gets it.

Ransom, through the laying on of hands, has been anointed the new Pendragon. (This happened offstage at some point in between books.) The other members of the resistance, sadly, don’t seem to have Arthurian counterparts. They are a ragtag band of misfits, including a bear named Mr. Bultitude (yes, an actual bear), and they do basically nothing except find Merlin before NICE does. Jane’s dreams help lead them to him.

(One of the darkly funny aspects of this book is that NICE only recruits Mark because they want to get at Jane. He’s so desperately pleased to be included and they actually only want him in order to get access to someone else.)

There is one glorious chapter in which Merlin Meets the Modern World. I loved this chapter! I would have read ten chapters of this! Merlin is so gloriously alien, and the other characters are so puzzled and awed and a little bit frightened of him.

However, instead Merlin is imbued with the powers of the Oyarsa of various planets, and he goes off to NICE headquarters and unleashes an orgy of destruction reminiscent of (though far more violent than) the scourging of Experiment House at the end of The Silver Chair, or indeed the Dionysian revel at the end of Prince Caspian.

As a kind of side note, when the Oyarsa are coming down to Earth to imbue Merlin with their powers, Merlin informs us that there are Seven Genders, and they are masculine, feminine, the sadness of deep time (this one is associated with Saturn), and, um, Jove? The Jupiter gender.

“But that’s only four,” you object. Indeed that’s true! Lewis has no intention of telling us what the other three genders are. Then you inquire, “Does the whole Seven Gender thing in any way impact traditional gender roles on Earth?”

I’m glad you asked! Absolutely not in the slightest. Jane, in her determination to avoid entanglements and interferences, has erred in her duty to be a properly humble and obedient wife.

Okay, so the thing that makes C. S. Lewis so maddening on this topic is that he’s clearly given this a lot of thought. Some male authors parrot this sort of thing and you have the feeling that they’ve just never in their life considered what it’s like to be a woman, but Lewis has absolutely considered it. With eerie accuracy, Jane voices worries that many intellectual women, in particular, are likely to relate to. Will anyone ever take me seriously? Will other people always see me as a silly little girl when I want to be seen as a serious thinker?

Lewis lays out those anxieties and says, “Your worries are absolutely justified! No one will ever take you seriously (except God) and the way other people see you IS more valid than the way you see yourself.” There’s even a scene where Jane complains that her husband no longer listens to her and Mrs. Dimble, the model for a Christian wife, is like, how could you expect any man to listen to all we have to say?

Now later in life, Lewis fell in love with Joy Davidman, apparently because it burst upon him like a shooting star that you could have stimulating intellectual conversations with a woman? just as if she were a man?? and after he had no choice but to fall in love, which is extremely funny in light of everything he wrote here. But also GOOD GOD.

In consequence, at the end of the book Jane is reunited with her husband Mark, even though (1) she no longer loves him, and (2) he nearly joined NICE, a quasi-fascist organization in touch with literal demons! And, okay, he wasn’t a true believer, but to be honest that makes it worse for me. If you’re going to join an evil organization of ultimate evil, then you at least ought to BELIEVE that you’re doing the right thing!

And, sure, he repented at the end, and part of his repentance is realizing that he doesn’t deserve Jane… And he doesn’t! He just doesn’t. And they’ve only been married for six months and they might as well cut their losses and get on with their separate lives.

Well so anyway I’ve finished C. S. Lewis’s Space Trilogy. I’ve meant to read it for about two decades now, so it was nice to get it done.

Date: 2023-08-03 12:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] landofnowhere
When I was a kid my mom read the first two Space Trilogy books to me, and I enjoyed them, but then we couldn't find / never got around to the last one, and it seems that was just as well!

I had no idea about this Seven Genders things! Are the seven genders all supposed to be associated with planets (you get seven if you don't count Earth or Pluto, as with Gustav Holst)?

Date: 2023-08-03 11:49 pm (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (Default)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
Is there a Pluto gender and is it the gender of being very small and cold and distant? - To be fair I think this is a gender that would resonate with many people.

Date: 2023-08-03 12:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] asakiyume
OMG this was so much fun to read, and I'm sure I never finished this book when I attempted it, because the Jane character and the you-silly-woman stuff would have driven me nuts. But the seven genders! Magnificent! But we only unlock four! Booo. The sadness of deep time. I'm giggling but also a part of me is like, yeah, maybe?

Anyway, thank you for reading this and reporting on it so humorously, so I never have to. (I think I never even made it to Merlin....)

Afterthought questions: How did you find out that Ransom was based on Tolkien in the other two books, and how did you find out that he switched who he was based on in this book? And I think you mentioned elsewhere that this switch in who he was based on really changes his personality? I'm curious about how. (I have little sense of Tolkien's IRL personality and NO sense of the other guy's)

Date: 2023-08-04 12:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ethelmay
In my more reductive moments, I think Charles Williams and Joy Davidman were both exactly the kind of manipulative assholes that for some reason Lewis was most vulnerable to. But I do really think there were sides to both of them that you could well understand someone falling for. (Dorothy Sayers was very taken by Williams as well, of course.)

There is actually an Arthur in the book, Arthur Denniston, but he and his wife Camilla don't really do that much apart from helping get Jane to St. Anne's. Oh, and incidentally, why on earth is Miss Ironwood, who is a physician, not called Dr Ironwood? There are so many backstories we don't get (I remember something about Ransom reassuring Miss Ironwood that he won't tell hers).

Dorothy Sayers praised THS quite a bit to Lewis, but later, to a friend, wrote "C.S. Lewis spoilt a good idea by cramming in all that Merlin stuff. ... I did venture to hint mildly, about That Hideous Strength, that I thought Ransom had become less interesting since he took to being the Heir of Redclyffe fading away on a sofa. But what irritated me from my point of view (the sordidly literary) is the half-hearted attempt made at one point to connect him with the Fisher King, on the strength of the wound in his heel. After all, I do know my Graal stuff well enough to know that, though the Fisher King was 'lame', he was wounded, not in the heel, or in the leg, but entre les cuisses [between the thighs] - a euphemism so common in the Middle Ages that Lewis cannot be ignorant of its meaning. The thing is a fertility myth, and as such one must take it or leave it. ... It's all wrong to try and turn the Keeper of the Hallows into some sort of avatar of Arthur, and Lewis would have done better to keep the Fisher King right out of it, since he makes no intelligible use of the theme."

There was more, but I am getting tired of typing it out. It comes in the third volume of Sayers's letters, p. 264-5, and the nice things she said to Lewis are on p. 177. I don't agree with her about Merlin, and am too ignorant to take sides on the fertility myth question, but I think she was right that throwing the Fisher King business in there was no particular use to anyone.

Date: 2023-08-03 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] landingtree
I read this book in my late teens, and remembered the seven genders, and the name Viritrilbia for Mercury, and... nothing else! I even forgot it was Merlin who channels the Oyarsa.

(Irrelevantly, we had a large teddy bear called Oyarsa who I believe is still sitting in my dad’s bedroom).

C.S. Lewis is so annoying on gender, because it seems like you could describe the situation of human gender to him accurately and he’d say “oh yes, perfectly possible, God might very well have done that - not here, of course, but on some distant planet in another star system”. So close to being open-minded, yet, so far.

Date: 2023-08-03 01:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] philomytha
My guilty secret is that I love this book and I’ve read it many times. Yes, there are so many awful things! But I can’t help enjoying all the other bits, Merlin vs Fascists is like catnip to me. When I read the Space Trilogy, the other two books did nothing for me, but I had a great time with this one. I love Mark so desperate to fit in and get ahead and his confusion of what’s expected of him and the way it all gets worse and worse, I love so many of the set-piece scenes, as you say Merlin getting to grips with the modern world is incredible, the arrival of the planets, the destruction of NICE, and also the depiction of Mark and Jane’s marriage feels both awful and real. Also, Mr Bultitude! Who can not love Mr. Bultitude?

Date: 2023-08-03 04:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] teenybuffalo
I love this book too despite my painfully mixed feelings. Love the brutal depiction of the way people can think they're being humane and socially responsible while supporting eugenics and fascism-by-any-other-name. Love Jane's brief taste of being a visionary and the moments when she gets to be just a person. Love the way that Wither and Frost's cold intellectual detachment somehow still takes them all the way into wallowing in blood worshiping a disembodied head voiced by Satan. I even love the four women playing dress-up.

Date: 2023-08-04 01:24 am (UTC)
ethelmay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ethelmay
Yes, for some reason I read it more often than the other two, despite all the times when I want to bop Lewis over the head. I think it's partly old associations with the first time I managed to read it and like it.

Date: 2023-08-03 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] teenybuffalo
I also found Miss Hardcastle a lot of fun, and felt similarly conflicted about that. As you say, at least SOMEONE in this gruesome place is having a good time. Can you see any particular actor in the role, in your mind's eye? I can't think of anyone butch and jolly enough.

Date: 2023-08-04 01:19 am (UTC)
ethelmay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ethelmay
Pretty sure Shine in Archer's Goon is somewhat based on her, and there was a made-for-TV version in the 1980s in which I remember Shine being well cast. (googles) Annette Badland. Too old now, of course, but if we're doing fantasy casting anyway, it doesn't matter. But honestly I always thought her description sounded like an awful lot of women I know - "despite a bosom that would have done credit to a Victorian barmaid, she was rather thickly built than fat, and her iron-grey hair was cropped short." Admittedly most of my friends do not wear lipstick put on with violent inattention to the actual shape of their mouths, but many of them color their hair with violent (violet?) inattention to its original shade.

Arthur means bear, doesn't it? So, you know, another random Arthur wandering around, hogging the bathroom, as they do.

Date: 2023-08-04 02:08 am (UTC)
teenybuffalo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] teenybuffalo
Oh DAMN, how did I not see that till now?! "My word, what an obvious and unmistakable butch lesbian stereotype, I'm enjoying her villainy," went I, in both cases, and yet I never noticed they look pretty similar. Thank you for bridging the gap.

Date: 2023-08-03 04:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flemmings

'Have no more dreams. Have babies.' Even at 14 in the unenlightened early 60s, that made my blood run cold.

Date: 2023-08-04 01:46 am (UTC)
ethelmay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ethelmay
Yep. And the chilling bit about how she and Mark had already screwed up because of a child that would never be born, for the time of its begetting was past, "of their own will they are barren." (N.B.: Lewis came from a two-child family, and the two women he became involved with, admittedly when they were past childbearing, were divorced women who had had only two children each. SOMEBODY was using birth control.)

Date: 2023-08-04 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superborb
"The sadness of deep time" gender feels rather modern, though obviously the rest not so much!

Date: 2023-08-07 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
This whole thing sounds like a wild ride.

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