Hamilton

Jul. 1st, 2016 10:24 am
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I finished listening to Hamilton! And I am not overcome by fannish emotion, but I did enjoy it very much, and I can definitely see all the shipping possibilities. Not one but TWO potential rival ships - Hamilton and Burr, Hamilton and Jefferson - a BFFship in Hamilton and Laurens (I, uh, I never actually picked out which one Laurens was, but I'm sure he's very shippable) - and also Washington/Hamilton if mentor/mentee is your thing. (Hamilton: "Don't call me son!")

Also Angelica, falling in love with Hamilton AT THE WEDDING WHERE HE MARRIES HER SISTER, WTF Angelica. Although it's really Hamilton's fault, going up to her all "I know you, you're exactly like me, we're the same because neither of us will ever be satisfied." Why would you say that, Hamilton, what can she possibly do but swoon?

In other news, the song where Hamilton's son dies following a duel made me cry.

AND THEN HAMILTON GETS INTO A DUEL AND FOLLOWS THE ADVICE THAT GOT HIS SON KILLED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Hamilton! Hamilton, you said yourself that this advice only works if your opponent is a man of honor! And you refused to support Burr for the presidency specifically because you think he has no honor and no principles and at least Thomas Jefferson does, even if his style of honor is antiquated and his principles are awful.

I'm not actually sure I agree with Hamilton on this. Is it worse for an elected official to have no principles or awful principles? Obviously neither is good. But perhaps it depends on the situation which is worse?

I also really liked Burr's song right before the duel, because you can just hear him freaking the fuck out about how HE IS GOING TO DIE and his beloved daughter Theodosia WILL BE ORPHANED, which I think makes his decision to shoot to kill more understandable.

(Fun fact: I read, or started to read - it was too boring to finish - a Victorian book about women's friendships, and Theodosia's friendship with her father was one of the examples. The author is all "Burr was a wicked rascal... except his friendship with his daughter!")

Poor Eliza, though. She loses her son, she loses her husband, her husband may have been cheating on her with her sister and/or that neighbor lady, her husband PUBLISHES A PAMPHLET about how he's been cheating on her, WHO DOES THAT. I'm sure it made great political sense but still. And then she is stuck editing his papers for the rest of her natural born days.

I also really liked the letters leading up to the duel. They're writing each other all "I can't take back any of the bad things I said about you because they are 100% true, and in fact I was holding back because of politeness the first time round, so now let me tell you what I REALLY think of you..." And then they sign them all "Your obedient servant," like you do. It's very funny in a gallows humor way.

Date: 2016-07-01 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
This was a fun read! And makes Hamilton much more approachable than the terrifying love posts that I've mainly seen.

My sister got my dad the soundtrack, as Hamilton is one of his heroes, and he really enjoyed it--and he's 85. So that's pretty cool.

Date: 2016-07-02 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I must confess, the sheer intensity of the enthusiasm for Hamilton put me off it for a while, purely out of contrariness. Everyone is all "You HAVE to listen to Hamilton," and I'm like I DO WHAT I WANT.

Date: 2016-07-02 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyperion-swan.livejournal.com
Satisfied was actually a flashback to the Winter's Ball--so Eliza didn't fall for Hamilton at the wedding per say, if that helps.

"Burr was a wicked rascal... except his friendship with his daughter!"
LOL

Date: 2016-07-02 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I suppose that is slightly better. Still a rough situation for everyone, though. "If only I'd given him a chance at the beginning, maybe we could have avoided this whole awkward love triangle thing!"

There are Victorians who do moral nuance well, but the guy who wrote the women's friendships book clearly wasn't one of them. He's so baffled by this spot of goodness on Burr's otherwise execrable character.

Date: 2016-07-02 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evelyn-b.livejournal.com
Hamilton! (and no, it probably didn't make political sense as far as I can tell). I enjoyed Hamilton but am not fannish about it. And all of the love-triangle teasing with Angelica just made me anxious and sad.

(My dad also loves Hamilton -- he'd read the biography it was based on first -- and now my whole family is into it, which is great).

The author is all "Burr was a wicked rascal... except his friendship with his daughter!"

Aww. I have so much sympathy for Burr as a result of this musical. Too much! "Wait For It" is my song to an embarrassing extent.

Also. . . happy birthday?!

Date: 2016-07-02 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I guess Hamilton was just like "They're going to write a mean pamphlet about me... so I'm going to write a mean pamphlet about me first! That's a good idea!" No, Hamilton, probably not.

The love triangle bothered me too. POOR ELIZA. Her life is such a disaster.

Aw, I think "Wait for It" made me teary too. Everyone dies! In particular, everyone who ever loved Burr has died. Actually, he's like Hamilton in that respect, but in Hamilton it's fueled this epic drive for achievement, whereas in Burr it's fueled... I'm not sure. Stoic resignation in the fact of the world's flaws?

And yes, it is my birthday! Thank you!

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