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Emma and I have finagled Rick and Caitlin - who, appallingly, have made it this far in their lives without seeing it - into watching Veronica Mars. This is GLORIOUS except for the fact that that it is difficult to restrain all my OTP feelings whenever Logan walks onscreen, because we have not yet gotten to the part where these OTP feelings make sense.

Veronica/Logan (or, as the shippers abbreviate it, LoVe. EVEN THEIR NAMES SHIP THEM IS IS CLEARLY MEANT TO BE) is the one pairing I am rabid enough about for the label “OTP” to be an accurate description of my feelings. I totally buy that Veronica was at least a little in love with Lilly. I happily read about Veronica having flings with Mac. But LoVe clearly has to be endgame.

I can’t believe that the trailers for the new Veronica Mars movie show that Veronica and Piz have been together for the intervening ten years. He’s so boring! So, so boring!

Okay, in real life, “boring” might be a better partner characteristic than “obligatory psychotic jackass” (as Veronica describes Logan in the pilot. She modifies her feelings later, but the description isn’t wrong). Although actually I think being married to/in a long-term relationship with someone who bores you to tears would be a way of dying by inches, so maybe not.

Piz is especially too boring for Veronica, who is so smart and passionately enraged by injustice, who breaks rules and sometimes ethical imperatives in her pursuit of the truth, who habitually lies even in her closest relationships and who has lost her trust for almost everyone in the world. “The people you love let you down,” Veronica tells us; it’s almost one of the first things she says. This is her basic assumption about human relationships. Veronica’s relationships are always a little messed up, because they have Veronica in them.

Actually, I could see why someone like Piz might seem attractive to Veronica, in his very boringness. It’s a way of running away from herself - of trying to repress her distrust of the world or ignore it out of existence by dating someone so inoffensive that he will act as a sort of eiderdown wrapping around her. If/when he lets her down, it won’t hurt as much, because she didn’t expect much of him, because there isn’t much of him.

Whereas with Logan, their relationship is so freighted with their history together and their own emotional problems (Logan is secretly kind of needy; Veronica is not able or willing to be vulnerable enough to meet that neediness) that it hurts like hell whenever things go wrong. Their very rapport, the fact that they understand each other in a way that other people can’t understand them, makes it worse.

But it also means that if these two crazy kids could work things out, they would be an unstoppable supernova. They might not be able to take on the world, but they could definitely take down the town of Neptune, and it would be glorious.

Date: 2014-02-01 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
I'm not even a LoVe shipper and the idea that Veronica has been with Piz for so long annoys me. Ten years. Ten years! Couldn't she just be, like, having had several relationships in the time between?

Date: 2014-02-01 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I know, right? I guess it's simpler for the moviemakers to have Veronica still with Piz instead of Random Guy We've Never Heard Of, but really. I didn't expect her relationship with Piz to last out the school year, let alone a whole decade.

Date: 2014-02-02 03:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
Well, she could have been in the movie having been just out of a relationship, or single for whatever reason.

IDK, I know everyone is really hyped about the movie, but VM was never something I was really into. And it seems like the creators and the fans want totally different things. I just have the cynical idea that a lot of LoVe shippers on my flist are going to be severely disappointed.

I do wonder if Piz was 'endgame' when the series was on, or if that's just who she happened to be with when it ended.

Date: 2014-02-02 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I think the creators have been on a different page than the fans since at least season 2, tbh. Abigail Nussbaum has an essay about this, the gist of which is that the creators think they're writing a realistic drama about a teenage girl who investigates things on the side, while the fans think they're watching a genre show about Veronica Mars, Snarky Girl Detective.

I tend to think this is why the show never quite found its feet after season 1. It does give me some trepidation about the movie.

Date: 2014-02-02 04:12 am (UTC)
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I read somewhere that she and Piz only get back together a short while before the start of the movie. I still hate it. blehhh.

Date: 2014-02-02 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
That would be slightly better, although still very vexing. Unless...perhaps Piz has become a criminal mastermind in the intervening ten years? Or otherwise done something to make himself interesting?

...It seems super out of character for Piz, I'm not holding my breath.

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