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The Social Network! It came to campus on the big screen (for freeeeeeeee!), and as it’s one of my favorite movies, I had to see it again.

I first saw it almost two years ago and it blew me away, so much so that I never posted about it because (a) I had way too many ~feelings~ and could not sort them out well enough to post coherently, and (b) my story ideas had a worrying tendency to revolve around Mark being beaten to a bloody pulp.

Admittedly, writing (b) might have helped me sort out (a).

So here’s the story: Mark Zuckerberg, with the pecuniary aid of his best friend Eduardo Saverin, founds Facebook at Harvard. But they argue about whether to start putting ads on the site. Over the summer, Eduardo goes to New York to buy ads, while Mark goes to Palo Alto, where he falls under the influence of Sean Parker, a.k.a. Mephistopheles. Infuriated by Sean’s influence over the company, Eduardo freezes Facebook’s bank account.

“I had to get your attention,” he says to Mark, and he has Mark’s attention, all right: Mark is so furious that he secretly dilutes Eduardo’s share in Facebook, original 30%, down to 0.03%.

The question, which the movie never quite answers - and that’s part of the reason why it’s so interesting - is why. Why does Mark betray his best (and, Eduardo says bitterly, only) friend? The movie makes it clear it’s not for money. But otherwise - is he jealous that Eduardo got into an exclusive Harvard Final Club? Did Sean Parker talk him into it? Sean, after all, had a whole summer to remind Mark again and again that Eduardo was in New York City, not in Palo Alto, where he should have been if he was really dedicated to Facebook and to Mark.

And Sean is right, to a certain extent. Eduardo is dedicated to Facebook, but he’s not all in: he doesn’t move to Palo Alto, when the fall comes he doesn’t leave Harvard like the rest of them to devote himself to it. He spends a lot of time trying to sell ads, but he doesn’t seem to realize how huge Facebook is; and, of course, when he’s mad at Mark he freezes Facebook’s bank account.

Analyses of the film often seem to ignore the account freezing, but it complicates the story considerably. During the depositions, Eduardo says that he never did anything that could be just cause for dismissal - but freezing the account did jeopardize Facebook.

What is particularly horrible about Mark’s behavior is not that he fired Eduardo; he did have just cause for that. It’s that he did it underhandedly, and pretended that everything was fine even as he plotted Eduardo’s ouster. He invited Eduard to Palo Alto for a party, and then, then sprang it on him that his share in the company had been diluted down to almost nothing.

Why invite him to the party? Just to twist the knife? Or did Mark somehow, delusionally, believe, or convince himself to try to believe, that this backstabbing betrayal wouldn’t destroy their friendship?

The same pattern of behavior shows up in his treatment of the Winklevoss twins. The movie gives the strong impression that Mark can’t handle confrontation and thus goes for passive-aggressive sneakiness every time. One of the most painful scenes in the movie is Mark and Eduardo’s confrontation when Eduardo does visit Palo Alto. “I want, I need you here,” Mark says, and then changes the subject even as Eduardo presses for more clarification: he just can’t deal with that much emotional honesty.

This is the scene that launched a thousand fics. There’s a lot of good TSN fic, but I find it in the aggregate frustrating because it tends to collapse the movie into a question of romance - as if the only possible and most interesting explanation of Mark and Eduardo’s friendship crashing and burning was that Mark couldn’t admit to being in love with Eduardo, and as if Mark finally admitting it would fix everything.

I submit that this explanation is only interesting the first ten times you read it - and even then, it would be more interesting if it took into account all the other tensions the movie plays with - and that this manner of fixing their relationship is based entirely on porn logic.

Sometimes I feel like fandom has fallen into the old formula that so frustrates me in books and on television: that two hot people (traditionally, a man and a woman; in fandom, often two hot guys) who have any relationship other than utter indifference have to get together, - and if they’re hot enough, we can even work around utter indifference! - and that their relationship is somehow incomplete unless they fuck like bunnies.

Clearly this is what a lot of people want fandom to be, and I only begrudge them that when I am feeling unusually petty and selfish. But it only does so much for me.

Date: 2013-09-10 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I submit that this explanation is only interesting the first ten times you read it

LOL! Seriously.

What can I say; I agree: the old formula is pretty boring to me, too. I like to see other aspects of relationships looked at, other reasons for conflict, other types of resolution.

Date: 2013-09-10 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-maxx.livejournal.com
Or it could be unresolved family issues. A similar scene-

Years ago my older sister arrived in Ca with her prospects quite exploded at the last moment, and I told her she could move into the spare bedroom in my little house while she got going again. I was offshore on the platform every other week, so she had th place to herself half the time.

She didn't look for work the first few months but ran up $200 per month phone bills on the house phone (this was in '83 and was a lot of money), and I asked her to limit her calls as she wasn't paying the bill.

When she didn't cut down on her calling, and discussion had no effect, the only thing I could think of, was to have the phone disconnected, which I did.

Two weeks later, she had a job and an apartment, having finally gotten motivated. She was quite angry at me for having the phone cut off, though. As long as I would take care of her she was content, but once stimulated to take care of herself, I was then the bad guy...

I learned later that's called dysfuntional family dynamics.

Date: 2013-09-10 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I am uncertain how this is related to this post?

I'm sorry about your sister, though. I hope she realized eventually that cutting off the phone was for the best.

Date: 2013-09-11 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
Sometimes I will think to myself, "What does slashing these two characters add to their relationship?", and often the answer is "Nothing but the opportunity for porn."

And sometimes, like here, it seems to actually strip away layers of complexity. It's not that it's impossible to write Mark/Eduardo and leave in all the complications, it's that people usually don't. Adding in romance gives people the opportunity to be lazy.

(Although conversely, there are times, like with the movie The Eagle, where slashing the characters is the only way to make the plot make sense, because how often does platonic affection make people act that stupid?)

Having said that, I feel a little like I'm complaining that action movies have too many explosions and romance novels too many "I love yous" (which come too cheaply, to boot). Maybe the genre and I just don't fit anymore.

Date: 2013-09-11 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Maybe the genre and I just don't fit anymore.

... I feel this sometimes about fantasy stories when I read descriptions of them. Bored and irritable. And then I think, okay, this isn't a flaw in the book; this is a flaw in me as a reader for this book. (Not to suggest that your assessment of you and slash is necessarily correct, just that if it is ... yeah)

Date: 2013-09-11 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
(maybe he meant the comment for someone else's post--I've had that happen sometimes: I've accidentally put the comment for one person's post in another person's post. It happens if I go directly from my friends scroll instead of opening up the person's own journal)

Date: 2013-09-11 09:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ladyherenya
Sometimes I feel like fandom has fallen into the old formula that so frustrates me in books and on television: that two hot people... who have any relationship other than utter indifference have to get together

Yes.

I would be more interested in fanfiction if this was not the case. Often - admittedly not always, but often - I think there are more interesting questions to answer than "What if these characters became romantically/sexually involved?" However, clearly other people do not always agree...

I guess sexual relationships are an obvious "what if" to be explored (and they come with enough tension to serve as a plot).

Date: 2013-09-11 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
That makes sense. I have done that on Facebook a number of times.

Date: 2013-09-11 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I don't read nearly as many fantasy stories as I used to, either...although with children's books the line between fantasy and not-fantasy is often blurrier. But somehow I never seemed to make the transition to the adult fantasy section.

Reading the descriptions, do they irritate you because they seem cliche? Or is it something else?

Date: 2013-09-11 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I think it's a matter of same-old, same-old. Although I might end up liking this or that story of a teen who discovers they have special powers and must use them to stop a catastrophe from happening, conceptually they just don't grab me that much any more, which makes me a little sad. Of course, that's only one sort of fantasy story. There are other sorts that I'm still interested in, conceptually--certain sorts of secondary-world fantasy, for example (but not, generally, ones that are using that framework as a critique of some real-world problem, unless the critique is fairly complex).

Usually, when I see a review that grabs me, there's some element of plot or setting or character situation that is unusual in some way.

Date: 2013-09-11 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] island-of-reil.livejournal.com
Sean Parker, a.k.a. Mephistopheles.

Zuckerberg, a.k.a Lucifer, didn't like the competition. :D

As for the romance thing... yeah, a lot of people are in fandom to get a romance/porn fix they can't get from traditional media. So that's going to show up in fanfic. I can understand being tired of all conflict being resolved by a tumble into bed. As someone who likes both smut and narrative complexity, I find that boring as well. Not only is there much more to people than their sexuality, but that "much more" also makes their sexuality more interesting.

I rather liked this post (http://professorfangirl.tumblr.com/post/57537256643/slash-was-the-only-genre-of-literature-i-had-ever) I saw the other day. I think she's generalizing overly much about both fan and especially pro fiction, but her insights are interesting.

Date: 2013-09-12 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
I think part of the difficulty is that it's simply harder to write an engaging story that focuses on a friendship or family relationships or what have you, because those relationships don't come with a plot like romance does and because there isn't an obvious crowd-pleasing moment (like a first kiss) to aim the story toward. And, fanfic writers being amateurs, we often don't have the desire or the chops to pull off something more complicated.

I feel like fandom has gotten more ship-focused in recent years, though, partly because ship fics do tend to get more readers.

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