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osprey_archer ([personal profile] osprey_archer) wrote2022-09-22 08:01 am

Book Review: Exiled from Camelot

[personal profile] skygiants’ reviews are always great, and her review of Cherith Baldry’s Exiled from Camelot is one of the most hilarious of many amazing reviews.

ARTHUR: I want to officially make Loholt my heir. Kay, draw up the legal papers. I know you don't like him --
KAY: Yes, well, he did try to kill me that one time, for no reason.
ARTHUR: -- but otherwise he's a good kid and I love him more than I love you and you need to get over it.
KAY: :(

(Arthur in this fic, by the way, will be playing the role of The Asshole Who Doesn't Love Kay The Way He Deserves And Must Be Proven Wrong Through Kay's Absence And Extensive Suffering.)


Well, I finally read the book, and I am DELIGHTED to inform you that it is exactly the kind of OTT tragic woobie fic that the review led me to expect, only somehow even moreso. I strongly suspect that Baldry read Phyllis Ann Karr’s The Idylls of the Queen and said “what if exactly like this but also WAY more focus on how Kay is UNDERAPPRECIATED and MISTREATED” (also a much softer focus on Kay’s own flaws).

This suspicion is fostered by the fact that Baldry seems to have borrowed Kay’s crush on Guenevere wholesale from Karr, right down to their habit of playing chess together (unless that’s just a general Kay & Guenevere thing?). Also, Baldry thanks Karr in the acknowledgements.

Our hero is Kay, King Arthur’s Tragically Underappreciated Seneschal, a top notch organizer in a culture that values military prowess highly and organizational ability not at all. Arthur himself is the Underappreciater-in-Chief. Although they grew up as foster brothers, Arthur has come to take Kay for granted - so much for granted that when Arthur’s newly-discovered illegitimate son Loholt tries to kill Kay, Arthur doesn’t care. In fact, the whole court, including Kay’s BFF Gawain, seem to be on Team “Haven’t you gotten over Loholt’s attempt to murder you yet, Kay?”

After a battle goes south, Arthur orders Kay to escort Loholt to safety through the lines. Loholt takes advantage of this opportunity to kidnap and torture Kay. When Kay escapes, he accidentally kills Loholt, then makes his battered, bleeding, traumatized way back to Arthur’s temporary court at Carlisle. Concerned that Arthur won’t believe that his beloved son Loholt is a kidnapper and a torturer (or, worse, that he just won’t care, any more than he cared about the whole attempted murder thing), Kay only tells Arthur that Loholt is dead. Enraged, Arthur orders Kay out of his sight, and Kay faints at his feet.

Kay accepts all of this with the adoring misery of an unloved puppy. He loves Arthur so much! And Arthur has long since ceased to love him at all. “I don’t think he holds me in his heart,” Kay whispers to Gawain, who is tenderly bathing Kay’s wounds in his rooms.

But worse is in store! A prioress shows up at court, holding a box that can only be opened by the knight who murdered the man whose head lies inside. The head is, of course, Loholt’s, and Kay’s touch opens the box, at which point Kay is… EXILED FROM CAMELOT!

Etc. etc., if you want the summary of the rest of the book you can read [personal profile] skygiants review. SUFFICE IT TO SAY that Kay suffers a GREAT DEAL MORE, not least when a foul enchantress mocks him with an illusion of Arthur saying, “Kay, I need you!” Meanwhile Arthur’s court, deprived of its seneschal, is at sixes and sevens, and Kay’s fanclub (chiefly Gawain and his little brother Gareth) often meet to wistfully discuss how much they miss Kay. At one point Gareth claims that working for a year in Kay’s kitchen taught him more about knighthood than all of Lancelot’s lessons.

After nearly dying yet again, Kay heroically saves them all, faints at Arthur’s feet for a second time, and wakes up in Arthur’s room, where Arthur tells Kay that everything that has happened was Arthur’s fault for failing to appreciate Kay, but now Arthur has realized how much he loves and needs Kay. Would Kay please come back to fill the position of seneschal, as the kingdom is falling apart without him?

Only a stone could remain unmoved by such a thorough grovel. Kay, deeply moved, agrees. Kay and Arthur reconcile, and Kay plans a feast. Happy end!

***

After I finished Exiled from Camelot, [personal profile] littlerhymes let slip that Cherith Baldry is one of the ghostwriters behind the Warrior Cats series, which are about rival clans of feral cats who war ceaselessly over territory!

So, basically, Arthuriana where the knights are feral cats. This finally tipped me over the edge into trying Warrior Cats, which I have long meant to do, but alas the vast cast of warrior cats defeated me: I’m just too old to make that kind of upfront investment in the lore. However, I feel that “feral cat Arthuriana” is exactly where Cherith Baldry wanted and deserved to end up, and I hope she got to write wounded woobie cat h/c to her heart’s content.
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[personal profile] philomytha 2022-09-22 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG this sounds like something I'm going to want to read in those moments when OTT TRAGIC WOOBIE H/C is the only thing that'll cut it.

One of my friends has a kid who is 100% obsessed with Warrior Cats, I think there's a huge fandom somewhere too.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2022-09-22 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Exiled from Catmelot.
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[personal profile] troisoiseaux 2022-09-23 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason that link is taking me to a counting book called Swallow the Leader

Well that is. Incredibly not what was on the page when I linked to it.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2022-09-23 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
NICE
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[personal profile] troisoiseaux 2022-09-22 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
littlerhymes let slip that Cherith Baldry is one of the ghostwriters behind the Warrior Cats series

Every single detail of this is So Much but this pushed me over the edge. Incredible.
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[personal profile] troisoiseaux 2022-09-22 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe because there is something inherently absurd about Warrior Cats as a series? It is Game of Thrones with feral cats for third graders and it has been going on for twenty years. I just looked up the series on Wikipedia and this is an actual quote: "Major themes in the series include adventure, forbidden love, the concept of nature vs. nurture, acceptance, the struggle of good vs. evil, the reactions of different faiths meeting each other, and all people being a mix of good and bad. The authors draw inspiration from several natural locations, and other authors such as J. R. R. Tolkien, J. K. Rowling, and William Shakespeare." IT IS ABOUT FERAL CATS.

I was o b s e s s e d with these books as a kid (although, again, looking on Wikipedia, it turns out I only ever read the first three sub-series; they're currently on #8) and I'm sure they're, like, objectively not actually good books, but they were such a fun world to play around in and the Official Warrior Cats Fan Forum was actually my first foray into fandom, circa like, 5th grade. (Mostly in the form of roleplaying as Warrior Cats OC[s] on the internet.)
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[personal profile] troisoiseaux 2022-09-22 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a series woobie who is simply So Misunderstood by the other cats but ultimately saves the day?

The one (1) character from the entire series that I remember with any clarity is Ravenpaw, who was born into ThunderClan - the Gryffindors of the four Clans - but was too much of a cinnamon roll (too smol, too pure) for a life as a warrior, and also he witnessed a murder, so his friends help him fake his death and he goes to live with his best friend, a "loner"/barn cat, outside of the Clan system. (This was probably not a metaphor for being gay, but it definitely kind of feels like a metaphor for being gay.) He periodically shows up to be helpful throughout the rest of the series.

Are the books in fact stuffed with epic hurt/comfort and feral cats standing above the body of a slaughtered comrade and swearing eternal vengeance on the perpetrators?

I can't remember the plot well enough to point to any specific examples, but definitely, yes. Absolutely chocka with vengeance.

My impression also is that Warrior Cats takes itself 110% seriously (inspired by Shakespeare) which may somehow heighten the inherent absurdity of the series.

Also yes!
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2022-09-23 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, I like this character and his barn cat friend already.
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[personal profile] troisoiseaux 2022-09-23 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely forgot to mention the prophesies! This series is VERY big on prophesies. Also in the third series, the protagonists have magic powers, which I imagine continues to be a thing in later series because that doesn't seem like an attempt to up the stakes you can back down from??

Anyway, I've taken one for the team and borrowed a couple of the early-ish ones from Libby, so stay tuned for that review.
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[personal profile] skygiants 2022-09-23 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I ALSO SCREAMED, FOR THE RECORD
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[personal profile] black_bentley 2022-09-22 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
My 11 year old nephew tried to explain Warrior Cats to me recently, and I was entirely lost. I am clearly far too old.
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[personal profile] kore 2022-09-22 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
....WOW. This author was clearly working out some things here and good for them! Must acquire.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2022-09-23 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Warrior Cats sound like a LOT of fun for kids of the right age. As for woobie Kay, I'm discovering a little suffering goes a long way in my case--most of the woobie stuff you've described recently sounds waaaay beyond my carrying capacity--but it's still fun to see you sturdier spirits reacting with enthusiasm ;-)

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[personal profile] asakiyume 2022-09-23 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I get it! The killing-people-as-a-cute-n-fun character trait is a good comparison!

(And I think maybe you're right about fictional suffering in non-fanfic-ish reading material)
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[personal profile] littlerhymes 2022-09-23 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
The joy this book is bringing... brings a tear to my eye just to witness it.

I am sorry to hear there were simply too many Warrior Cats but I think you're right, we're just out of demographic. Needed to read it when we were like 13.
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[personal profile] sovay 2022-09-24 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I strongly suspect that Baldry read Phyllis Ann Karr’s The Idylls of the Queen and said “what if exactly like this but also WAY more focus on how Kay is UNDERAPPRECIATED and MISTREATED” (also a much softer focus on Kay’s own flaws).

I skipped this one because Kay getting in his own way is so much of what makes The Idylls of the Queen for me, but I am glad it continues to give value for money!