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osprey_archer ([personal profile] osprey_archer) wrote2019-01-21 08:16 am

Jean Webster & Adelaide Crapsey

As you may recall, some time ago I posted about discovering a blog about female literary friendships which was accepting guest posts. “I could write about Jean Webster and Adelaide Crapsey,” I mused.

Jean Webster wrote Daddy-Long-Legs - which I feel is long overdue a new film adaptation, one that focuses more on her intellectual development, although there would be the problem of adapting the romance to suit a modern audience. Adelaide Crapsey, meanwhile, invented the cinquain. You may have read her poems without knowing it: she’s often anthologized.

November Night

Listen…
With faint dry sound,
Like steps of passing ghosts,
The leaves, frost-crisp’d, break from the trees
And fall.

I wonder if I could read some of these with my coven of fourth-graders. Frost-crisp’d would undoubtedly perplex them.

ANYWAY. I wrote the essay, and it has been posted! Go feast your eyes upon its magnificence.
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[personal profile] missroserose 2019-01-21 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
MY DUDE. That's an amazing essay! (And an adorable author photo, too.) Thanks for sharing it! I think we far too often study writers (especially female writers, sigh) alone and don't consider them in the context of their culture and friendships (which are usually dismissed as frivolous gossip), when it's precisely that sort of frivolous gossip that makes them human! And often informs their writing, too, because we're human and relationships are such an integral part of who we are.
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[personal profile] nineveh_uk 2019-01-21 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice essay! I'd not heard of Crapsey before.

I would love a good film adaptation of Daddy Long-Legs that focussed on it as a Bildungsroman and Judy's opportunity for intellectual growth and discovery. I think that it would be entirely possible to adapt the romance in a way that audiences found non-cringy, if the will were there. Cast a Jervis who is young - the plot really doesn't require him to be any older than 26/27 at the start of the book if he started putting orphans through college when he started college himself - and show his own developing awareness that he's messed this one up.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2019-01-21 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a really lovely essay, and somehow I didn't know--though probably you've even said--about their early deaths. It's really sad! I think it's great that Jean managed at least to get Adelaide's one poem published, for Adelaide to enjoy, before her death, and I think it's great that their friendship was strong enough to withstand the difference in levels of success (and health) that came their way.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2019-01-22 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think you could definitely do cinquains with your kids--I have a memory of doing them in school. I seem to recall being given a very clear-cut explanation of how to construct them [searches online] ... okay, that's because we were taught what Wikipedia terms the "didactic cinquain"--I remember the -ing line in the middle.

... But I think there'd be a way of avoiding something quite that formulaic, maybe especially if you had examples.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2019-02-02 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I like "the lines get longer and longer and then *pop*" very much--I think kids could have fun with that.
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[personal profile] amaebi 2019-01-21 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice! Thanks!

I knew almost nothing about Crapsey.

I finally read Webster's The Wheat Princess. In my view the weakest of her novels, but still interesting.

Have you read the Patty books? Or Dear Enemy? Dear Enemy might be easier to make a Bildungsroman movie of-- aside from the eugenicism. But I think that would be pretty easy to cut.
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[personal profile] amaebi 2019-01-22 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I forgot about the Four Pools Mystery! I used to have a copy, but never read it, and then I lost it in the Flood of the Frozen Pipes!

I think the Patty books would work awfully well, though I wonder how the sociology of the all-women's college of the period would go over.

Agreed on Dear Enemy. The doctor's secretiveness about his past wife and present children, if any retained, could just be sorry about the wife, and reluctance to explain disabled children.

I wouldn't want to lose Judy, either. Your suggestion about something like The Lizzie Bennet Diaries seems sound, as does your suggestion about making Jervis younger-- but what about making the story a more obvious Bildungsroman for Jervis, through Judy, as well?
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[personal profile] amaebi 2019-01-22 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, my, I hadn't been thinking about the Whiteness, about which, yeah, your solutions are perfect. I was thinking of all the sweethearting among the women students, not that the Pattys are particularly rife with it.

Go women's college with their more successful Bronson Alcotting!

I was thinking that Jervis would have a lot of easy of-courses of wealth, unconsciously, and get them made visible by Judy, thus keeping the spotlight on Judy. Or, oh, he could give up mansplaining, which I'm sure he felt entitled to as man, elder, and secret patron.

I forgot about Jerry Junior, and don't remember! I've never read Jerry! Much Ado bout Peter is a complete mystery to me!

And I don't know Three Margarets and hadn't heard of it or its author.
Edited 2019-01-22 02:33 (UTC)
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[personal profile] amaebi 2019-01-23 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
I was going from covers on Gutenberg. I bet Just Jerry was republished as (just) Jerry. Whew.

It was long, long ago when I read it, and I hadn't remembered that he appeared in the Patty books, from which (of course) Patty appears most clearly.

I think I haven't ate unpacked my Websters, but rereads are clearly in order.
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[personal profile] thisbluespirit 2019-01-21 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, well done! That's great!
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[personal profile] kore 2019-01-21 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh very nice!
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[personal profile] littlerhymes 2019-01-22 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
That is a lovely essay, congrats! I hadn't known about this friendship... did you uncover any others when you were researching your thesis?
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[personal profile] littlerhymes 2019-01-23 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
I know nothing about Peabody and Brown, or Johnston, so I will look forward to reading about them!

Oh gosh that's a sad literary tale of the one that got away. I hope it turns up again on one of your bookhunting trawls, I love Coolidge but know very little about her and her friendships.