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osprey_archer ([personal profile] osprey_archer) wrote2012-08-27 09:25 pm
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The Presidential Sorting Hat

[livejournal.com profile] zodiacal_light commented on my Teddy Roosevelt post that she'd had a conversation about sorting presidents into Hogwarts houses recently. I think this sounds like the MOST FUN EVER, and clearly no serious historical inquiry is complete without Hogwarts houses, so...let the games begin!

Teddy himself, of course, is a Gryffindor. He's obviously clever enough to go into Ravenclaw - in between big game hunting and being president he wrote like twenty books - but he valued courage above all else: his endless paeans to the active life, his love of hunting, his brief stint as a cowboy, during which he citizen-arrested a couple of horse thieves and dragged them quite a ways to the nearest sheriff's office...

Also, when the Spanish-American War broke out, he quit his job to muster a volunteer regiment to invade Cuba. They charged gloriously up San Juan hill. It is such a Gryffindor thing to do.

Other Gryffindors: Andrew Jackson, much as I hate him. (It always bothered me that the Gryffindors are always good in Harry Potter. Courage is an important part of being a good person, but it's not a magical stairway to heaven.) Possibly Grant? I don't know enough about him to decide definitively - I'm going mostly on the fact that he's a general, and they're brave, right? (He's clearly not a Slytherin. No political sense at all.)

However, our other two general presidents, Washington and Eisenhower, I'd both put in Hufflepuff: Washington for his vast sense of duty, and Eisenhower because of his avuncular geniality. They weren't overwhelming clever or brash or cunning, but they were great stabilizing forces, and both very popular in their times. Hufflepuff presidents: surprisingly effective!

(Hufflepuff never really recovers from its presentation in the first Harry Potter book. Slytherin may be evil, but Hufflepuff is the "oh no don't sort me there!" house.)

I'd say Thomas Jefferson as a Ravenclaw: clearly a very bright man, and completely incapable of seeing how his high-falutin ideals might apply to his actual life. This disconnect between thinking and doing seems Ravenclaw to me. I'd put Lincoln here too, although you might be able to claim him - surprisingly enough - for Slytherin, because he was an exceptionally clever politician. But Slytherins generally seem to lack the moral sense that is so central to understanding Lincoln, so he doesn't quite fit. (My dad is a Lincoln buff. It's rubbed off on me.)

And Wilson is so a Ravenclaw, too. I'd like to put him in Slytherin, purely out of spleen, but he clearly doesn't have the cunning God gave a goose so that would work.

And Slytherin? Tricky Dick Nixon, obviously. Otherwise it's hard to tell...it feels like a massive indictment of character to say "This guy! He's a Slytherin! JUST LIKE VOLDEMORT." But if we're including non-presidential founding fathers...Alexander Hamilton. Slytherin all the way.

Comments? Questions? Furious rebuttals? Anyone I totally should have sorted who I missed?

[identity profile] novangla.livejournal.com 2012-09-01 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I know of Jack Kennedy's earlier life, he would've been a Claw. His older brother was supposed to be ~the President~, and he was a sickly kid who took to history and kind of wanted to just be left to his books (though he was a Kennedy so he had the requisite competitive spirit etcetery). What we see of him in the Senate/Presidency is him trying to take on a role that his Slythery dad put on, but his first tactic as President was the "best and brightest" -- i.e., "let me surround myself by my brilliant friends". That SCREAMS Ravenclaw to me, because you see who he respected and trusted. I think Robert was more the Gryffindor of the bunch, very crusadery. Oh God I have an icon of him, too. *uses all the icons*
Edited 2012-09-01 13:20 (UTC)

[identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com 2012-09-01 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the impression that Joe Kennedy wanted his children to be Slytherins who act like Gryffindors - to seem honest and brave and full of competitive vigor, but be willing to cheat if necessary to win.

It's amazing those kids turned out as well as they did.

And I think you have a good point about JFK. "The best and the brightest" is SUCH a Ravenclaw formulation.

Would Ted Kennedy be a Hufflepuff? Or was he Gryffindor too?