I see what you're saying about the Oneida community being Human Park, and yet, if that was the case, why did they feel the *need* to ban alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco? I'm thinking of the fact that the things you ban are the things that are troubling group harmony....

Also, since you were just in Ithaca, I think you need the fake Mountain Goats song "Going to Ithaca," which Sovay shared with me some time ago.